yuki skrev, for 23 minutter siden:

But hey, if you look closely, the world is still in the hands of men. Just go to Italy and see how men have all the positions of power in society for example.

Virkelig - er det ikke bare et middelklasse barns observation?

I arbejderklassen har  mænd skullet afleveret pengene til moderen (matronen),  der så har taget sig af det økonomiske og dermed haft magten. Mænd har arbejdet og taget på cafeen/værtshuset og kommet hjem for at sove.

Det er nogenlunde det samme i DK og Skandinavien bortset fra mænd hænger ud hjemme.

Redigeret 3. Februar, 2023 3 år af Rallende

bull1977 skrev, for 11 minutter siden:

Anyone here remember last time looking at anyone and get a smile back? 

Every single day !!! Smiling at people saying a polite "good morning", "hi" or the like, will get you a smile back. And why wouldn't it ?

Redigeret 3. Februar, 2023 3 år af tvr

tvr skrev, for 13 minutter siden:

Every single day !!! Smiling at people saying a polite "good morning", "hi" or the like, will get you a smile back. And why wouldn't it ?

Yeah i agree. Being polite and pleasant will still get you positive feedback 99% of the time. 

Rallende skrev, for 19 minutter siden:

Davvero - non è solo l'osservazione di un ragazzo della classe media?

Nella classe operaia, gli uomini dovevano consegnare il denaro alla madre (matrona), che poi si occupava delle finanze e quindi aveva il potere. Gli uomini hanno lavorato e sono andati al caffè/taverna e sono tornati a casa per dormire.

È più o meno lo stesso in DK e in Scandinavia, tranne per il fatto che gli uomini escono in casa.

OK my thread did not want to 'dig' to this extent But

here in denmark I perceive a good balance between men and women. (maybe i'm wrong)

But I'm talking about the reality I come from. I grew up in the middle class it's true, and this is indeed an observation that comes from that. 
My father certainly brought money into the house, but meanwhile my mother worked her ass off to raise me and my brother, and without having chosen such an imbalance. 

She gave up her dreams and her career to look after us. Only there is always this narrative of money at the centre, while everything immaterial (read caring, cooking, cleaning...) is ephemeral and non-comparable. WTF? 

Despite this, I also understand that social roles are so rigid and not fluid. The problem is this, if a man wants to look after the children while the mother does her career or whatever and is happy with that, why is it not an accepted concept.

However guys, I think both extremism, from women and men, is toxic. We need a dialogue. 

yuki skrev, for 14 timer siden:

We need a dialogue. 

I totally and utterly agree! 

But maybe not here on Eroguide, I'd think. I might be wrong, but:
We're not allowed to discuss political issues on Eroguide.
This might be a "borderline" subject, but based on previous threads, some and especially sensitive topics like this one, tend to start as something and end in flames and politics here on Eroguide. 
I don't know if that's the case with this thread/subject, to be clear! 
Just sayin'...  

Eva 

 

Eva Nadine skrev, for 45 minutter siden:

Sono completamente e assolutamente d'accordo! 

Ma forse non qui su Eroguide, penserei. Potrei sbagliarmi, ma:
non siamo autorizzati a discutere di questioni politiche su Eroguide.
Questo potrebbe essere un argomento "borderline", ma sulla base di thread precedenti, alcuni argomenti particolarmente delicati come questo tendono a iniziare come qualcosa e finire in fiamme e politica qui su Eroguide. 
Non so se questo è il caso di questo thread/argomento, per essere chiari! 
Sto solo dicendo...  

Eve 

 

Agreed  thank u 

yuki skrev, den 2.2.2023 at 21:53:

premise: I apologise for my oversharing but these days I feel very inspired to use this forum.

 

I moved to Denmark about a year and a half ago, I gave up everything I had in Italy (mainly friends and work) cuz I felt this was where I belonged.

I travelled a lot around here as a child, and it was my little dream to come and live here one day. 

I'm getting on incredibly well and I'm totally enthusiastic about this country. 

The question is this: 

I have observed how in Denmark (or indeed here in the capital) it's very rare for a man to whistle at you or make loud appreciations, or stare at you insistently, etc.

Despite the fact that in Italy such behaviour is practically the norm, I have never received it much, perhaps because I have spent half my life hiding everything that could be sexualised. I was scared.

 

here a famous video about this :

 

 

Yet since I moved here, I've found myself completely on the opposite side; I love men looking at me, I mean it's something I sincerely find exciting. 

The explanation I have given myself is because it's something rare in this city. 

Feminists have often spoken of the 'male gaze', which is very present in Italian culture (where I come from),

that is, women, having grown up in a macho society, have internalised the search for approval from men. 

 

I don't understand whether seeking the male gaze in a country where it's not so massively present is something that overturns the very concept of machismo. 

Have I made myself clear? I don't know, maybe. Tell me what you think, if you like 

 

*ohmm...Sorry guys I'm a heavyweight when I have to speak my mind

Hi Yuki,

Having lived nearly half of my life in Italy, and still going there very often, I recognize 100% your observations. I am danish with spanish roots,  very latin and spontaneous, love the flirt and the eye contact with the girls in the street, in the bar, bus, restaurant or shop. Here in Denmark nearly everybody avoid eye contact and stare down in their mobile displays. They are shy, when outside of their comfortzones and thereby missing a lot of fun, gioia, love and friendships. 

I am so mature now that I insist in teasing all the woke-folks, saying hello to nice girls and smiling and flirting whenever possible. Because I love to live.

Cari Saluti da Signor

I belive Danish men in general wait until the woman 'invites' them in to do that kind of glazing. How do they invite men in? Hard to say, but I think it lies in eye contact. Most men won't do anything until the woman has given the 'look of approval'. 

Hold. The. Fuck. Up. Guuuuurl. I'm not originally from Denmark either, having been born in an Eastern European country, and while we have our leeway with the sexes (I've even had an acquantince complaining about how she missed being slapped on the ass due to the #MeeToo movement) this just sounds too good to be true.

I'm going on a vacation to Italy for the first time this autumn. You mean to tell me that  I can dress like an 80's Miami-Columbian druglord with slickback hair in a pearly white suit, openly being a horny douchebag and catcall women verbally and directly without any form of social repercussions?

I do this all the time in my car anyway. On a summer drive through CPH I can't count how many times I go "Mmm, mmm, mmm". I keep it to myself as this type of behaviour is frowned upon in Denmark as being invasive, harrasing and disrespectful. 

And THIS is your complaint as an Italian? That you miss it? Ha.

Yuki, hook a brother up with some Italian catchphrases I can memorize. What I thought was going to be a boring family vacation suddenly sounds so much more fun and... Mischievous 

 

We look, but most of us do it discrete. It’s out of respect for the woman - nothing else.