SPs that only want to see Scandinavian men

[Max_p 73]

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Hello folks,

I have come across numerous posts in which SPs mention they only want their guests to be of Scandinavian race. Examples can be found at sexyclub and PG.

What is the rationale behind such demands? A paying customer is a paying customer so why race should matter?

There may be some bad experiences SPs face but should that mean an entire race be banned? 
 

[Blue man 620]

Max_p skrev, for 10 minutter siden:

There may be some bad experiences SPs face but should that mean an entire race be banned? 

Maybe they are only turnt on by Skandinavien men… could be the reason

[Knaldesen 39]

"It's not racism, it's statistics."

If for example 98 % of Scandinavian customers behave like gentleman, and that number is "only" 90 % for non Scandinavians, then that means a 5 times higher risk associated with the latter group.

Some girls have had too many bad experiences with certain groups, and have every right to exclude accordingly.

[Ubeskriveligt 781]

I have heard 2 explanations.

Black men can be rather big which most GP's dont like.

Men that we would normally call "indvandrere" in Denmark are known for treating GPs with no respect and behave like the opposite of gentlemen.

I do not know if it is true but thats what Ive heard.

It is also quite normal on Escortguide that they write the same.

Redigeret 14. Juli, 2022 af Ubeskriveligt

[Harran 2412]

I have asked admin to move your post to debat, @Max_p.

[Jimbo 721]

Twice at a well known whore house in Vanløse I have had to exit the place through the backdoor. The reason is that both times a bunch of young dudes with arab/muslim origin were screaming and yelling outside the entrance door, trying to get in and have "fun" with the girls. Eventhough the girls denied their access, they kept yelling and banging the door and windows to get in, really terryfying the girls.. I can only imagine which horror it would be for the girls if they had opened the door. Another girl told me she had her money robbed by a non scandinavian. A third girl told me she had refused to go on a date with an Indian client which made him so angry that he wrote a really really bad review here on this site. This girl was really well rewied already, so I dont doubt that the dude got a good service from her. Most Scandinavian men treat the "pleasure girls" with respect and compassion, so there is hardly any reason for a masseuse to take the chance and accept clients from other countrues than the Scandinavian ones. 

[Ubeskriveligt 781]

Jimbo skrev, for 7 minutter siden:

Twice at a well known whore house in Vanløse I have had to exit the place through the backdoor. The reason is that both times a bunch of young dudes with arab/muslim origin were screaming and yelling outside the entrance door, trying to get in and have "fun" with the girls. Eventhough the girls denied their access, they kept yelling and banging the door and windows to get in, really terryfying the girls.. I can only imagine which horror it would be for the girls if they had opened the door. Another girl told me she had her money robbed by a non scandinavian. A third girl told me she had refused to go on a date with an Indian client which made him so angry that he wrote a really really bad review here on this site. This girl was really well rewied already, so I dont doubt that the dude got a good service from her. Most Scandinavian men treat the "pleasure girls" with respect and compassion, so there is hardly any reason for a masseuse to take the chance and accept clients from other countrues than the Scandinavian ones. 

True. I have heard several similar stories.

The sad thing is the girls where the pimp decides who they meet and dont meet. Those girls will probably meet all the guys who the more independent girls refuse.

[Dinosdk69 941]

What is a SP?

[Cowboytoasten 146]

I know several working girls. The middle easterners/arabs/blacks are just more likely to cause trouble, act degrading towards them or cause issues with the payment. This is not being racist, this is their experience. Ofcourse theres white men doing it as well, but not as much.

Redigeret 14. Juli, 2022 af Cowboytoasten

[Kallekatt 5]

Things have generally changed quite a lot in Scandinavia.

I am born and raised in Sweden but I have dark skin from my mothers side (who is from the Caribbean). It used to be that I as most was seen as an "exotic" cameo in Sweden (and Denmark). People would notice, but since I spoke perfect Swedish and acted like any Swede around people would just treat me as anyone else.

I used to visit the lovely ladies in Copenhagen quite a lot and never had a problem. Then 2016 hit with the large flood of immigrants from the southern parts of the world. After this everything changed. These days I am pretty much banned from several places in Denmark (I have had phone ladies pretty much open the door, scream "We are fully booked" and slam the door in my face).

The sad answer is this:

With 2016 came a truckload of assholes that treat women like crap. As a result the population has unofficially become divided into two groups

1. People who look Scandinavian and likely treat women well
2. People who don't look Scandinavian and has a high likelihood of belonging to the group of assholes from southern parts of the world

For safety reasons, the ladies of Denmark filter out the second group.

Yeah, I am screwed by this and it feels like crap. However if I were in their shoes I would probably do the same.

[Bananas 17565]

Kallekatt skrev, for 19 minutter siden:

Things have generally changed quite a lot in Scandinavia.

I am born and raised in Sweden but I have dark skin from my mothers side (who is from the Caribbean). It used to be that I as most was seen as an "exotic" cameo in Sweden (and Denmark). People would notice, but since I spoke perfect Swedish and acted like any Swede around people would just treat me as anyone else.

I used to visit the lovely ladies in Copenhagen quite a lot and never had a problem. Then 2016 hit with the large flood of immigrants from the southern parts of the world. After this everything changed. These days I am pretty much banned from several places in Denmark (I have had phone ladies pretty much open the door, scream "We are fully booked" and slam the door in my face).

The sad answer is this:

With 2016 came a truckload of assholes that treat women like crap. As a result the population has unofficially become divided into two groups

1. People who look Scandinavian and likely treat women well
2. People who don't look Scandinavian and has a high likelihood of belonging to the group of assholes from southern parts of the world

For safety reasons, the ladies of Denmark filter out the second group.

Yeah, I am screwed by this and it feels like crap. However if I were in their shoes I would probably do the same.

I read you and understand. Something has happened. And you're on the bad side of this. 
On the other hand, these things tend to exaggerate themselves. If 10 danes treat women badly and one muslim does, it's the muslim that feeds the tale.

I also know some girls in the business, and they tell me that the assholes they meet - or don't meat due to false bookings - are danes by far. 
It's at myth that danes (or swedes) always behave themselves, and that coloured people don't.

But a popular myth.

[Spider 831]

Max_p skrev, for 3 timer siden:

 SPs

What is SP an abbreviation of?

[Francois 1264]

Spider skrev, for 18 minutter siden:

What is SP an abbreviation of?

Sex Provider is my guess.. 

/Francois

[JenniferRomantica 18096]

Bananas skrev, for 43 minutter siden:

I read you and understand. Something has happened. And you're on the bad side of this. 
On the other hand, these things tend to exaggerate themselves. If 10 danes treat women badly and one muslim does, it's the muslim that feeds the tale.

I also know some girls in the business, and they tell me that the assholes they meet - or don't meat due to false bookings - are danes by far. 
It's at myth that danes (or swedes) always behave themselves, and that coloured people don't.

But a popular myth.

Så din erfaring meget anderledes end min.. Jeg mener dog bare heller ikke at jeg vil udelukke alle fordi mange er idioter.. Jeg vil hellere beholde mit gode positive (til tider naive) sind, og tro på det bedste i alle mennesker.. Jeg har aldrig haft decideret voldsomme, eller andet lignende, oplevelser med folk af anden etnisk baggrund.. Men jeg fornemmer klart en forskel i respekt, og måden de generelt har sex på.. 

Især i saunaen var de tit et "problem" når de kom rendende med deres gasbeholdere, næsen fuld af crap og en latterlig attitude.. Det var i hvertfald ikke de gæster os piger elskede mest kan jeg garanterer dig.. Hvorimod de danskere der kom fucked på coke var mere populære fordi de gerne bare betalte og betalte i deres liderlighed.. 

En anden grund til at pigerne frabeder sig mænd med anden etnisk baggrund kan være fordi de færdes meget blandt dem eller fordi de selv er af anden etnisk baggrund.. 

Redigeret 14. Juli, 2022 af JenniferRomantica

[ButterflyMan 831]

Jeg knaldede engang en latina i Spanien. Hun prøvede at undgå negere  fordi deres pikke er så store at hun ikke kunne arbejde 3 dage efter. Hun viste med hænderne hvor store de var og det var ligesom BBC porno filmene.  Så  det var altså ikke racisme men bare dårlig forretning 

/B

[Bananas 17565]

JenniferRomantica skrev, for 4 minutter siden:

Så din erfaring meget anderledes end min..

Jeg har ingen erfaring overhoved - så din erfaring er den der tæller. Jeg bare videregiver hvad nogle piger har fortalt mig. En af dem siger hun er tæt på at stoppe helt fordi hun ikke kan holde ud med danskere mere. Hendes udmattelse har intet at gøre med folk fra andre lande.

Men jeg læser dit skriv som at dansker på coke er bedre end udlændinge på coke? Det er jo en sjov - eller noget - analyse. Var det ikke dig i øvrigt som fortalte om en gæst som havde betalt dig med dine egne penge? Var det en muslim?

[Mook 1752]

Dinosdk69 skrev, for 1 time siden:

What is a SP?

Simple profile, my guess 

[Jimbo 721]

Bananas skrev, for 11 minutter siden:

Jeg har ingen erfaring overhoved - så din erfaring er den der tæller. Jeg bare videregiver hvad nogle piger har fortalt mig. En af dem siger hun er tæt på at stoppe helt fordi hun ikke kan holde ud med danskere mere. Hendes udmattelse har intet at gøre med folk fra andre lande.

Men jeg læser dit skriv som at dansker på coke er bedre end udlændinge på coke? Det er jo en sjov - eller noget - analyse. Var det ikke dig i øvrigt som fortalte om en gæst som havde betalt dig med dine egne penge? Var det en muslim?

Hende der glædespigen du kender som er træt af "dansker" kan da bare skrive "kun arabere modtages" 

[Bananas 17565]

Jimbo skrev, for 10 minutter siden:

Hende der glædespigen du kender som er træt af "dansker" kan da bare skrive "kun arabere modtages" 

Ja, eller så stopper hun bare. Det er hvad jeg siger til hende. Men på den anden side så prøver jeg jo ikke at lave noget sjov af det.

[AalborgLook 5177]

Spider skrev, for 9 timer siden:

What is SP an abbreviation of?

Small penis 

[JenniferRomantica 18096]

Bananas skrev, for 14 timer siden:

Var det en muslim?

Det var en irsk mand der var i Danmark pga noget ishockey mener jeg.. Jeg vil faktisk MEGET hellere blive snydt end at føle mig ikke respekteret eller set ned på.. 

Igen påpeger jeg det ikke er alle, ellers tog jeg jo heller ikke imod mænd med anden etnisk baggrund.. Men langt de fleste har bare et andet syn på kvinder og har en anden måde at have sex på der føles ligeglad og som om det egentlig helst gerne må gøre ondt.. Mange af dem forstår ikke et nej hverken til kys eller smæk i røven også selvom de ikke er synligt påvirket.. Forbindelsen jeg normalt altid formår at finde kan simpelthen ikke graves frem selv hvis jeg anvendte en gravko..

De gode, søde og respektfulde anden etniske mænd ved godt selv det er et problem generelt med deres trosfæller og det er altid et emne de bringer på bane som smalltalk.. 

[Eva Nadine 4840]

Max_p skrev, den 14.7.2022 at 19:18:

What is the rationale behind such demands? A paying customer is a paying customer so why race should matter?

I'd say:
The rationale behind is that it's convenient for the sex worker. 

"A paying customer is a paying customer"... No. Not really. Not true at all, for most sex workers. We're not selling fancy coffee or other more simple "products". It's not "30 minutes of spreading legs while fake-moaning on an assembly line" for most of us. We are physically, personally and sexually more or less invested in the experience, the person and the time we spend with each man, so you're not simply "a paying customer" either. You are a temporary sexpartner and you are paying a small portion of our salary of the day. Comparing a paying sex buyer with any kind of buyer or customer (especially in this forum) is almost ludicrous. You are a person. So is the sex worker. You share and exchange more than just a product and money. 

If you, or anyone else reading this thread, with similar thoughts, challenges or experiences are actually behaving more or less like Scandinavians, I would think something along this line, might work for you: 
"Hi. I'm of non-scandinavian descent. Would I be welcome if I act like a Scandinavian man?".
Maybe accompanied by "My dick is smaller than that of a Black Male Pornstar" in case that might be the issue, as someone suggested. If for nothing else, then to break the ice. 
This might make some girls - and some phoneladies - at least open a dialogue and even reveal what specific reasons there are for these seemingly racist rules. 
Often rules have exceptions. But it's a lot easier to just exclude a bunch of people than have a long list of "if then else" criteria. 

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Generelt til tråden/emnet og lettere generaliseret: 

Skandinaviske mænd er vokset op blandt fortrinsvist kvinder i institutioner, og i et ret feminiseret samfund sammenlignet med de fleste andre steder i verden. Det er næsten unikt for skandinavien. I hvert fald i en så høj grad. 
Derfor har skandinaviske mænd måske nemmere ved at "tilpasse sig" når der skal leges på kvindens banehalvdel. Opstår der konflikter eller uenigheder, er manden ganske enkelt mere trænet i at læse signaler og agere undvigende. Dette gør det for en sex arbejder tryggere. 

Personligt er jeg ligeglad med race og kulturel baggrund. Men det er jeg kun fordi jeg er øvet i og dermed blevet dygtig til at skelne mellem hvornår jeg kan "være skandinavisk" og hvornår jeg f.eks. skal tage "vred bedstemor" attituden på. Den falder mig ikke naturlig, og jeg skal noget længere frem i skoene fra start med ikke-skandinaviske mænd. 
Det kræver altså af mig (og af andre sex arbejdere vil jeg gætte på) at VI er tilpasningsvillige mht. hvordan vi opfører os overfor forskellige mænd. Sådan er det naturligvis i det hele taget. Der er forskel på hvordan vi flirter og kommunikerer med f.eks. generte mænd og smart-i-en-fart-mænd. Så vi er sådan set vant til omstilling nærmest intuitivt. 
Når det kommer til mænd der i deres opvækst og kultur eller subkultur har været vant til at mænd "tager styringen" og det i seksuel samvær er ham der bestemmer, og vi så oven i købet har den skævhed at han har betalt for en service oven i hatten, så kan der blive en slags overbalance, hvis sex arbejderen ikke formår at "tage kasketten anderledes på" i situationen. Det handler ikke nødvendigvis om at hun ikke har de sociale kompetencer eller den erfaring der skal til. Det kan være det bare falder hende for svært at tage styringen af flirten, eller hun ikke orker at skulle optegne sine grænser så voldsomt som det af og til er nødvendigt. Det kan jeg godt forstå. 
Jeg har også dage hvor jeg er mindre tilbøjelig til at sige ja til en aftale med en mand jeg allerede i telefonsamtalen eller sms-dialogen fornemmer har lidt svært ved at forstå at det er min banehalvdel vi leger på, selvom det er ham der skal forkæles. Nogle dage er det altså bare ikke lige i dag jeg magter at skulle forklare hvad "frihed under ansvar" er i praksis når man har G-strengstrusser på og der ikke er adgang bag trussen. En streng kan jo flyttes på sådan næsten ubemærket. Jeg løser det ved at sige "øjeblik... jeg skal lige skifte trusser" og så tager jeg bedstemor-trusser på så det passer til bedstemor-attituden. Men jeg gider det ikke. Og nogle dage gider jeg det SLET ikke. 
Ovenstående eksempel er som "topløs massør" kan vi kalde det for nemheds skyld.
Når der skal kysse-bolles er grænserne jo noget mere vigtige og sværere at markere end med et par trusser i forskellig størrelse. 

Jeg er med på at jeg også skriver mellem linierne at skandinaviske mænd er nemmere at håndtere. Det mener jeg faktisk. På godt og ondt  

Så... det handler formentlig sjældent om race eller gener, men om adfærd, opførsel og opdragelse. 
Matriarkalske og Patriarkalske samfund resulterer i meget meget forskellige både mænd og kvinder. Jeg vil mene at Skandinavien er et stærkt feminiseret samfund at vokse op i. Måske ikke ligefrem Matriarkalsk, men i hvert fald langt langt mindre Patriarkalsk end de fleste andre lande. 

Når ikke-skandinaviske kvinder tiltrækkes af at komme til Danmark som sex arbejdere, er een af de primære motivationsfaktorer formentlig også ovenstående. Skandinaviske mænd er "nemmere" er hvad jeg hører fra de udenlandske (primært afrikanske og østeuropæiske) kolleger jeg kender godt nok til at vi har talt om det. Det er dog i antal ikke nok til at jeg kan drage konklusionen at det mest er derfor. Købesex er også relativt godt betalt i Danmark, og lovligt. 

Langt langt de fleste af mine gæster på briksen er faktisk skandinaviske. Og jeg skriver intet om det i min annonce. Til gengæld finder især de mænd der genetisk set er af arabisk afstamning det ofte nødvendigt på forhånd at spørge om de er velkomne "selvom jeg ikke er (genetisk) dansk" hvilket faktisk gør mig lidt trist. Måske derfor er de hos mig særligt velkomne. Men, det er så også fordi jeg har rene mormor-trusser og -attitude klar hvis det skulle blive nødvendigt  

Personligt og subjektivt er mit indlæg naturligvis. Jeg ved jo ikke hvorfor netop de piger der er nævnt som eksempel fra to specifikke lysthuse ikke ønsker sig andet end skandinaver. Hvis vi er heldige svarer de selv med tiden her  

God weekend! 

Kærligst, 
Eva 
 

[Gh0st 914]

Well we are living in a civilized free society and this means that we are free to choose whoever we want to have wih (provided it is voluntarily and with person of legal age).

I don't have o explain why I avoid Thai  and African women, East European GP's or 'transwomen',

 I simply  can' get offended by those (relatively few) who writes in their ad's that they only want specific types clients even if it is non-scandinavian men..

Sex with a prostitute is not covered by the Humna rights, it is a personal relation even if money is involved, and thus we all have to respect each others preferences.

People are so easeily offended these days, just look at the LGTBQ+ environment, it is like some are just out there looking for trouble.