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Barbarasmile1 skrev, for 10 timer siden:

I think few individuals understood what I trying to request or say . And thank you for that , I repeat  I do have two phone but it’s kinda scary that people like to insist.  And the sad thing they doing it consciously .  

 

 Peace for all of you and again -empathy and respect - there is no reason to be mean and arrogant 

Enjoy the last summer days 

Hugs B 

Hi Barbara. 

As a fellow sex worker I understand your frustration. 

People should respect that we're not available 24/7 just like they manage to respect opening and closing times in other professions. Anything else is just lazy and disrespectful. 

Trouble is that in this forum we can have a philosophical discussion, give suggestions and sympathise (perhaps even empathise), but I am almost certain that the people who don't read your add or respect your time off also don't read the discussions in the forum. 

So most likely, this topic will make very little difference, at least when it comes to day to day frustrations. What it might do is foster a greater understanding of sex workers daily lives among the readers of this forum, and serve to at least give you peace of mind knowing that what you describe is indeed considered disrespectful behaviour amongst most people. 

I know that you didn't ask for solutions, but I will definitely recommend doing as @Frække Tanja and myself, and get a dual SIM and have a work number and a private number, so that you can turn off your work SIM whenever you need peace and quiet. 

Best of luck! 

Nanna 

Redigeret 24. August, 2021 af Nannas Hjørne

[Guest Barbarasmile1]

Thank you again for those who showing  empathy and understanding, and not making me feel dumb  .

And why I created this topic ,even if I know there will be always few fellows who don’t want to understand and will do intentionally in a bad way . One thing is to trying to reach out someone 1-2-3 times because they don’t see probably my advertisements , but there is another thing writing more than a week a couple of time’s /day , even if my phone is turned off it’s scary and I’m not talking about one specific message  there is more , I do understand people have time especially now , but I really didn’t  wanted to spend my precious time to explain things for adults.From  All of my advertisement I wrote “Holiday” only one thing left the number , and only here which from now is deleted .
And again I do had enough year to decide what is enough and learn my boundaries ,and I’m not alone with this issue. We are working girls and we should be thankful for the visitor - and people who are interested in meeting with us -Yes I’m aware of that -  , but there is no Money I could accept from someone who making me feel  uncomfortable ! And it’s a two tango - if there are no working girls probably there would be a big problem as I can see the numbers of the users !  
 

And also the reason why I created this- in the near future I will not bother myself to write back for those who keep writing among of messages if I’m away from work - no hard feeling nothing personal .

 

Thank you again for those who could understand my intention .

My phone is turned off until I return to work .

hugs 

Barb 

Redigeret 24. August, 2021 af Barbarasmile1

[Guest Chock Dims]

Usædvanlig tåbelig indlæg og klappen-i-hænderne fra gutterne.  Hun kan nemt løse problemet ved at have en arbejdstelefon og en junk-mail som hun holder lukket eller ikke læser når hun ikke arbejder. Så har de respektløse kunder ingen muligheder for at være respektløse.

 

[Guest tvr]

Chock Dims skrev, for 38 minutter siden:

Usædvanlig tåbelig indlæg og klappen-i-hænderne fra gutterne.  Hun kan nemt løse problemet ved at have en arbejdstelefon og en junk-mail som hun holder lukket eller ikke læser når hun ikke arbejder. Så har de respektløse kunder ingen muligheder for at være respektløse.

Helt uenig. Men du ved åbenbart bedre hvordan pigen gerne vil køre sin forretning?

Hun skriver jo at det er dem der "insisterer" og dem der bliver ved der er problemet. Det kunne jo tænkes, at hun rent faktisk gerne lige vil fortælle stamkunderne at hun er på ferie, så de ikke afskriver hende i fremtiden. 

Og ja, hun kan da slukke sin telefon, men så kan hun jo heller ikke lige fortælle dem hun gerne vil se igen, at hun er på ferie, og de kan aftale igen om X uger.

Der er simpelt hen ingen undskyldning for ikke at opføre sig ordenligt. Og at insistere på den slags, er bestemt ikke at opføre sig ordenligt.

[Guest Barbarasmile1]

Chock Dims skrev, for 42 minutter siden:

Usædvanlig tåbelig indlæg og klappen-i-hænderne fra gutterne.  Hun kan nemt løse problemet ved at have en arbejdstelefon og en junk-mail som hun holder lukket eller ikke læser når hun ikke arbejder. Så har de respektløse kunder ingen muligheder for at være respektløse.

 

Dear @Chock Dims,  if you find this thread silly why you bother yourself to join and share your condescending opinion? May I ask you if you read this whole conversation properly ? 

And which boys deserves the clapping -those whom calling me 17  times a  day plenty of messages even when my advertisement is not on and clearly obvious I’m on holiday ? I don’t find it normal even if my phone is turned off 

Well than I will applause for you as well I see your smart point ! 

[Guest Barbarasmile1]

tvr skrev, for 3 minutter siden:

Helt uenig. Men du ved åbenbart bedre hvordan pigen gerne vil køre sin forretning?

Hun skriver jo at det er dem der "insisterer" og dem der bliver ved der er problemet. Det kunne jo tænkes, at hun rent faktisk gerne lige vil fortælle stamkunderne at hun er på ferie, så de ikke afskriver hende i fremtiden. 

Og ja, hun kan da slukke sin telefon, men så kan hun jo heller ikke lige fortælle dem hun gerne vil se igen, at hun er på ferie, og de kan aftale igen om X uger.

Der er simpelt hen ingen undskyldning for ikke at opføre sig ordenligt. Og at insistere på den slags, er bestemt ikke at opføre sig ordenligt.

Thank you !  Exactly this is the thing what I’m trying to say .

[Guest Chock Dims]

tvr skrev, for 12 minutter siden:

Helt uenig. Men du ved åbenbart bedre hvordan pigen gerne vil køre sin forretning?

Jeg forholder mig slet ikke til hendes forretning og hvordan hun kører den.

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Hun skriver jo at det er dem der "insisterer" og dem der bliver ved der er problemet. Det kunne jo tænkes, at hun rent faktisk gerne lige vil fortælle stamkunderne at hun er på ferie, så de ikke afskriver hende i fremtiden. 

Det gør hun allerede på hendes annonce.  Der står vist Holliday og nummeret er rettet til 0'ere

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Og ja, hun kan da slukke sin telefon, men så kan hun jo heller ikke lige fortælle dem hun gerne vil se igen, at hun er på ferie, og de kan aftale igen om X uger.

Der er simpelt hen ingen undskyldning for ikke at opføre sig ordenligt. Og at insistere på den slags, er bestemt ikke at opføre sig ordenligt.

Stop lige dig selv. Hun annoncerer med en mail bl.a. herinde så der kan hun nemt sætte et autosvar på med besked om at hun er på ferie. Det samme kan hun gøre med sin arbejds-telefon og med telefonsvareren.  Alt i alt er der ingen problemer overhoved og dem der evt er  kan hun løse let og elefant som anvist.

Men indlægget sikrer jo omtale og det er nok i virkeligheden formålet. Der er masser af eksempler på tråde startet af prostituerede som handler om "ingenting"  og som bare fylder.

 

Redigeret 24. August, 2021 af Chock Dims

[Guest Chock Dims]

Barbarasmile1 skrev, for 4 minutter siden:

Dear @Chock Dims,  if you find this thread silly why you bother yourself to join and share your condescending opinion? May I ask you if you read this whole conversation properly ? 

And which boys deserves the clapping -those whom calling me 17  times a  day plenty of messages even when my advertisement is not on and clearly obvious I’m on holiday ? I don’t find it normal even if my phone is turned off 

Well than I will applause for you as well I see your smart point ! 

Jeg har en mening om meget og kan kommentere frit indenfor visse grænser, selvfølgelgt. Indlægget er meningsløs - men det er jo bare en mening blandt mange.

Ideen med en arbejdstelefon er at bruge den i arbejdsmæssig sammenhæng. Når man ikke arbejder så lægger man den fra sig. Resten af verden er ligeglad med om man er på ferie eller ej for hvordan kan de vide det? 

Men hvorfor har et du et indlæg om dit arbejde når du nu er på ferie? Det hænger ikke rigtig sammen

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Chock Dims skrev, for 18 minutter siden:

Jeg forholder mig slet ikke til hendes forretning og hvordan hun kører den.

Hahahaha. Nej det er tydeligt:

Chock Dims skrev, for 18 minutter siden:

Stop lige dig selv. Hun annoncerer med en mail bl.a. herinde så der kan hun nemt sætte et autosvar på med besked om at hun er på ferie. Det samme kan hun gøre med sin ARBEJDS-telefon med telefonsvarereb.  Alt i alt er der ingen problemer overhoved og dem der er evt kan hun løse let og elefant som anvist.

Den fik du på bedste vis selv modbevist i selvsamme indlæg. 

[Guest tvr]

Chock Dims skrev, for 16 minutter siden:

Men hvorfor har et du et indlæg om dit arbejde når du nu er på ferie? Det hænger ikke rigtig sammen

Det kan du simpelt hen dømme om hænger sammen??

Du har aldrig talt om dit arbejde uden for abejdstiden? for det ville simpelt hen ikke hænge rigtigt sammen??

Yeah, right. Det tror alle jo på

[Guest Chock Dims]

tvr skrev, for 29 minutter siden:

Det kan du simpelt hen dømme om hænger sammen??

Du har aldrig talt om dit arbejde uden for abejdstiden? for det ville simpelt hen ikke hænge rigtigt sammen??

 

Har jeg ferie så har jeg ferie. Jeg skriver ikke indlæg i offentlig eller prvat fora omhandlende mit arbejde. Jeg har nemlig ferie. De gange min arbejdsgiver har ringet i min ferie er forstyrrelsen undskylidt og forklaret hvorfor det var nødvendigt. Det er normalt de fleste steder at man undgår kontakt i ferien.

Når damen så starter et indlæg, i sin ferie, omhandlende et arbejdsrelateret problem som på enkleste vis kan løses, så tænker jeg mit. Jeg klapper ikke i mine meget små hænder  og synes "det er så synd" med de slemme mænd der ringer og vil knalde.

Hvis det virkeligt er et problem så har hun dummet sig  med at blande arbejde og privatliv sammen. Det må hun respektere da det er sådan verden fungerer.

tvr skrev, for 29 minutter siden:

Yeah, right. Det tror alle jo på

Ok.... til hvad den sætning må betyde

Redigeret 24. August, 2021 af Chock Dims

[Guest Mr. Sensual]

Chock Dims skrev, for 1 time siden:

Usædvanlig tåbelig indlæg og klappen-i-hænderne fra gutterne.  Hun kan nemt løse problemet ved at have en arbejdstelefon og en junk-mail som hun holder lukket eller ikke læser når hun ikke arbejder. Så har de respektløse kunder ingen muligheder for at være respektløse.

 

It's very simple. Just respect the girl. Why all these negative words? Be happy for the fact that you can meet beautiful girls here in peaceful Denmark.

All the best from Mr. Sensual

[Guest tvr]

Chock Dims skrev, for 5 minutter siden:

Har jeg ferie så har jeg ferie. Jeg skriver ikke indlæg i offentlig eller prvat fora omhandlende mit arbejde. Jeg har nemlig ferie. De gange min arbejdsgiver har ringet i min ferie er forstyrrelsen undskylidt og forklaret hvorfor det var nødvendigt. Det er normalt de fleste steder at man undgår kontakt i ferien.

Jamen, så er det jo også tydeligt at du ikke er selvstændig, og at din indtægt ikke er 100pct afhængig af den service du selv yder og at dine kunder kan få fat dig (og ikke en kollega). Så kan du jo ikke sammenligne din situation med pigens og det du kalder for "normalt" er vist kun for lønmodtagere......

Chock Dims skrev, for 10 minutter siden:

Når damen så starter et indlæg, i sin ferie, omhandlende et arbejdsrelateret problem som på enkleste vis kan løses, så tænker jeg mit.

Du kan jo tænke hvad du vil. Men du har jo helt klart ikke forstået pigens problem. Problemet er jo ikke at folk ringer til hende. Problemet er at de ikke respekterer det, når hun siger hun har ferie. Og det er jo faktisk bare det hun gør opmærksom på. Alt andet er overreaktioner.

[Guest Mook]

Mr. Sensual skrev, for 29 minutter siden:

It's very simple. Just respect the girl. Why all these negative words? Be happy for the fact that you can meet beautiful girls here in peaceful Denmark.

All the best from Mr. Sensual

Det vil muligvis ikke hjælpe, for da er kun nogle få grupper(segmentere) som er respektfuld - og millioner af ... er respektløs..  - og derfor er det et håbløst indlæg, desværre  :)

Jeg vil selv ikke acceptere disrespects kunder, men det er muligt at undgå dem, derved må man gøre noget ved det :)

[Guest Mook]

Mook skrev, for 1 minut siden:

Det vil muligvis ikke hjælpe, for da er kun nogle få grupper(segmentere) som er respektfuld - og millioner af ... er respektløs..  - og derfor er det et håbløst indlæg, desværre  

Jeg vil selv ikke acceptere disrespects kunder, men det er muligt at undgå dem, derved må man gøre noget ved det

Umulig *

[Guest Mr. Sensual]

Mook skrev, for 25 minutter siden:

Det vil muligvis ikke hjælpe, for da er kun nogle få grupper(segmentere) som er respektfuld - og millioner af ... er respektløs..  - og derfor er det et håbløst indlæg, desværre  :)

Jeg vil selv ikke acceptere disrespects kunder, men det er muligt at undgå dem, derved må man gøre noget ved det :)

Vi må aldrig miste håbet, men disse alvorlige ord fra en af branchens stjerner gør indtryk. Jeg forstår ikke de mænd, der kan få sig selv til at være uværdige og disrespektfulde overfor pigerne. At der er så mange af dem, chokerer mig. Er vi virkelig sunket så dybt, at pli, høflighed, respekt, åbenhed og ærlighed bliver erstattet af det grove, vulgære og uopdragne?

Mange hilsener fra Mr. Sensual

[ekholmen 21]

I might upset some of you with my comment. I am sorry for that!

Not answering the phone or not answering SMS (written in a friendly way of course) is not a NO in my book. there are a hundred reasons for not answering the phone (being on the loo is one). If I call any service provider (agreed that the service discussed here is on a different level) I expect an answer. Either a "no i am on vacation", "I cant do that service", "I am overbooked", basically any answer is OK but I DO expect an answer! Prerecorded answering machine or a pre-written text sent in an SMS, all are fine. If I don't get an answer and if I am interested in the service offered I will call/write again. Maybe a number of times!

I do understand the stress put on the girls/women but I as a customer that are willing to spend some hard earned cash on the service offered and I do NOT find it respectful to not get an answer back! Of course calling 17 times (if that was an actual number) is NOT acceptable.

I have to admit that I not always look at Escortguide (or whatever site we talk about) before calling and I have found out that it sometimes is successful even if the text sates "Holiday/On vacation". I would probably try to locate the ad after a few unsuccessful calls.

So in this case no disrespect but jus a different understanding of what a no answer means!

[Chelly 77]

I want to share my experience with people who insist and calling lot of times !
Friday  in the evening one potential client insisted a lot of time to meet me, i did not answered, because I was occupied . When I got time I did answer for him even if I didn’t wanted because  he called numerous times I felt it’s weird but he seems very nice to the phone in my mind then it was "ohh, his a nice guy i judged him". We agreed to meet Saturday because I was already too tiered to meet Friday 
He arrived, we did what we have to do, then when time was finished he sad "i dont wanna go, i stay here and you cannot do nothing if you dont like u can go" I explained him kindly it is not possible you have to go. Hi started to be aggressive, my girlfriend from the other room she heard. I took his clothes and i gave it to him to put it in, he refused and become more and more aggressive. He said "i want u to go out to the room, close the room" then i understood he wanna stole from us and i said in my house nobody close the door, the door stay opened. I was tacking the peper spray and i said to him i will use it in that moment he was a bit scared, he put his clothes on he asked to go to toilet, i said okey. In the toilet he called someone, we understood when he said "come here, i cannot do nothing because of them" so. I said to him hurry up. Then he just jump on me to take the peper spray, i fighted with him, i knowed if he take it he will beat us badly. It was not about money, it was about our lives. I tried to protect myself so I beat , his bolls, his face, when one of my hands was free in a sec i used the spray. I have black marks everywhere. This time i/we was lucky cause if not today for sure i write this message from hospital!!!! 

When someone insist so many time its creepy, we are not obligated  to answer to every calls. We can select who we want to meet, we can refuze etc.we don't have a contract with nobody, everyone have to respect our privacy and to stop thinking if we do this job we are obligated  to accept everyone!!!! I suppose if we call back the clients all the time  they will NOT be happy, they will think we are psychopath. If you u don't like that, don't do it for us. WE HAVE RULES, FELLINGS AND THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WITH WHO WE SPEND OUR TIME, OFFERING OUR SERVICES!!! 
I think more than 3 calls from a person it’s already obsession !
BARBARA she’s on holiday since 1 week I think she got enough patience but like she said enough enough ! She wrote it here because it became too much !!!!!
I'm glad she wrote all of this cause im sure I could share my experience ! I know Barbara personally I know she had also plenty strange experience and this is alarm for us !

I will share pictures, 
And I find it disrespectful that people thing we have to answer for calls ! No we don’t have to answer for every calls !

[Chelly 77]

Barbarasmile1 skrev, for 11 timer siden:

Thank you again for those who showing  empathy and understanding, and not making me feel dumb  .

And why I created this topic ,even if I know there will be always few fellows who don’t want to understand and will do intentionally in a bad way . One thing is to trying to reach out someone 1-2-3 times because they don’t see probably my advertisements , but there is another thing writing more than a week a couple of time’s /day , even if my phone is turned off it’s scary and I’m not talking about one specific message  there is more , I do understand people have time especially now , but I really didn’t  wanted to spend my precious time to explain things for adults.From  All of my advertisement I wrote “Holiday” only one thing left the number , and only here which from now is deleted .
And again I do had enough year to decide what is enough and learn my boundaries ,and I’m not alone with this issue. We are working girls and we should be thankful for the visitor - and people who are interested in meeting with us -Yes I’m aware of that -  , but there is no Money I could accept from someone who making me feel  uncomfortable ! And it’s a two tango - if there are no working girls probably there would be a big problem as I can see the numbers of the users !  
 

And also the reason why I created this- in the near future I will not bother myself to write back for those who keep writing among of messages if I’m away from work - no hard feeling nothing personal .

 

Thank you again for those who could understand my intention .

My phone is turned off until I return to work .

hugs 

Barb 

I totally agree with u'! Im really happy u wrote about all this stuff! 

[Chelly 77]

Barbarasmile1 skrev, for 22 timer siden:

I think few individuals understood what I trying to request or say . And thank you for that , I repeat  I do have two phone but it’s kinda scary that people like to insist.  And the sad thing they doing it consciously .  

 

 Peace for all of you and again -empathy and respect - there is no reason to be mean and arrogant 

Enjoy the last summer days 

Hugs B 

Some of them They just cannot understand or they don't want to, even if you have 2 phones, if you are in hollyday or u just don't wanna answer to someone it's just your problem! U have a private life and u don't have to give explanation to no one! It's about respect, to check the detail about the girl before u contact her and to not be insistent!

[zombie 359]

Chelly skrev, for 49 minutter siden:

I totally agree with u'! Im really happy u wrote about all this stuff! 

Thank you for your openness. Your terrible experience sounds like a nightmare. I'm chocked, but unfortunately not very surprised. I think your business attract sociopaths more than anything. I appreciate you and Barbare goes public with your bad experiences. Very brave because when sexworkers write anything critical about bad male behaviour, some men get angry. 

Redigeret 24. August, 2021 af zombie

[ekholmen 21]

I am so sorry to hear your story! I can't really say anything, the experience you had is awful. 

You have the experience and I can't argue with that!  

Once more very sorry for what happened to you!

[Guest Chock Dims]

tvr skrev, for 11 timer siden:

Jamen, så er det jo også tydeligt at du ikke er selvstændig, og at din indtægt ikke er 100pct afhængig af den service du selv yder og at dine kunder kan få fat dig (og ikke en kollega). Så kan du jo ikke sammenligne din situation med pigens og det du kalder for "normalt" er vist kun for lønmodtagere......

Det er en noget begrænset udsyn du har på andres mulige erhverv synes jeg.  Virkeligheden i min branche er en helt anden end du tilsyneladende antager.

tvr skrev, for 11 timer siden:

Du kan jo tænke hvad du vil. Men du har jo helt klart ikke forstået pigens problem. Problemet er jo ikke at folk ringer til hende. Problemet er at de ikke respekterer det, når hun siger hun har ferie. Og det er jo faktisk bare det hun gør opmærksom på. Alt andet er overreaktioner.

Det kommer ikke til at ske, så det eneste at gøre er blive ukontaktbar når man ikke vil kontaktes.

 

[Chelly 77]

Jogge skrev, den 23.8.2021 at 21:16:

Yes and maybe the one who calls don’t use all the times to look in your announcement.
 

I think you forget you are running a business - and you should just be glad somebody contact you for buying you services. 

You are a pimp I guess , or you are a manager of some girls ?
If you know so much about sex and buying services:))))) 

[Chelly 77]

Chock Dims skrev, for 13 timer siden:

Unusually silly post and the clapping-in-hands from the guys. She can easily solve the problem by having a work phone and a junk mail that she keeps closed or does not read when she is not working. Then the disrespectful customers have no chance of being disrespectful.

 

Because of tour type of guy most of the girls are afraid to meet with new customers , 0 respect for working girls and very ugly attitude , and nobody cares about your opinion . But I can see your recently created your account so probably you have no idea YET how to be a polite person to girls !